their class loyalties and enough of them will join with democrats to raise the debt ceiling. that's what will happen. they will have embarrassed themselves in the process. you know, greg sergeant of the washington post has been writing about this. a lot of them are starting to realize that. once you have a few of them llz 2 -- >> they haven't realized it yet. >> there's a dilutional loop with which this party operates. maybe john boehner and his elbow-like exile -- >> there's an elbow-like exile in dabbingry land. >> there's a disarray and disrepute that the republican party has fallen into. you want i want to come back to the memo about the time people spend on money, raising money. that is a terrible disservice to people. i think you do see with the independent expenditures and the money pumping in that it leaves people -- we should not draw false ekwifl ens because the republicans have been obstructionists far more than democrats. it leaves young republicans, especially, fear of primaries, fear of the money that could lead them to be ousted and they're not going to move ve